Told She Couldn't Be a Pilot Because She Was a Woman, with Deborah Crowe

Deborah grew up on a sheep and grain farm in Southland, the oldest of four in a family with 55 first cousins. She wanted to be an astronaut, until the Air Force told her women weren't allowed to be pilots. So, she became an electrical engineer instead, then rebranded into IT when she realised the people there earned three times what she did. In 2000 she co-founded Run the Red, the company that taught New Zealand how to text, and sold it to Pushpay in 2014.